Someone found out that Path — and most probably other apps — was stealing your contact data from your iPhone and iPad without telling you about it. This happened because of Path’s greediness, but also because Apple is not protecting your privacy as it should.
And all that sucks, even according to what Steve Jobs himself says in this video.
To understand the unintended irony of Steve’s words, you need to fully understand the huge privacy problem that is happening right now on your iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. It goes like this: Path and other apps — we don’t know which — upload your contact information onto their corporate servers without telling you about it. These apps use an address book service that Apple provides within iOS, which is similar to the geographic location service also present in the operating system that powers all the iDevices.
The difference is that the iPhone’s GPS service requires you to actively approve that the app can access it. Apple’s operating system asks you for permission every time an application wants to know for your location, not the app itself. This is a barrier that the app can’t bypass. The security system is designed in this way so the app — which could be anything from a game to your typical free flashlight app — can’t spy on you without you noticing it.
This works perfectly fine.
The problem is that the address book service doesn’t use the same mechanism. It’s free for the taking. This is where the privacy fustercluck ensues. Some app developers — like Path did — are taking advantage of this weakness. The fact is that, at this point, any app can access your address book and steal all your contacts. Just like that. We don’t know which apps may be doing this right now. That is a scary thought and Apple should have thought about it.
The irony comes when you realise that Steve Jobs thought this was absolutely wrong too. In fact, you can tell that he believes that what Apple’s “colleagues in the valley” were doing — companies like Google or Facebook — was despicable. He explains this in full detail in this video, recorded at the D8 Conference in 2010.
He first attacks Silicon Valley companies for, according to him, not taking privacy as seriously as Apple does. Then he details what they are doing to prevent any privacy breaches. It’s a compelling description, like always.
Jobs even says that, before accepting apps into the App Store, Apple analyses them so it can detect if they want to steal your contact information data and “suck it up to the cloud.” This is precisely what Path did. If what he said is true, Apple obviously failed to detect it in Path’s case. He also assures the audience that Apple detected some malicious apps and rejected them. That’s one of the “advantages of the curated Apple store”, he claims. One that, as the Path case has demonstrated, is either not true or not as effective as it should be.
Here is the transcript of the video above, which shows how he replied when Mossberg asked if privacy looks that different in Silicon Valley than in the rest of America:
0:53Â No, Silicon Valley is not monolithic. We always have had a different view on privacy than some of our colleagues in the Valley. We take privacy extremely seriously.
1:22Â As an example we worry a lot about location in phones. And we worry that some 14-year-old is gonna get stalked and something terrible is gonna happen because [of] our phone… so, as an example, before any app can get location data, we don’t make it a rule that they have to put up a panel and ask because they may not follow that rule. They call our location services and we put up the panel saying “this app wants to use your location data, is that ok with you?” Every time they want to use it.
And we do a lot of things like that to ensure that people understand what these apps are doing.
2:02 That’s one of the reasons we have the curated app store. We have rejected at lot of apps that wanna take a lot of your personal data and suck it up into the cloud.
So… a lot of people in the Valley think that we are really old fashioned?
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Privacy means people know what they are signing up for. In plain English. And repeteadly. That’s what it means.
I’m an optimist. I believe people are smart and some people want to share more people than other people do. Ask them. Ask them every time. Make them tell you to stop asking if they get tired of you asking. Let them know precisely what you are going to do with their data.
That’s what we think.
Basically, Steve Jobs thinks that anyone who doesn’t follow this privacy model — like Path now or Google and Facebook during 2010 — sucks. He was completely right.
That’s why he must be turning in his grave now, learning how he left this world without taking care of the address book in the iPhone — making sure that it worked exactly the same as it does in the GPS service, with an alert controlled by the operating system and the users. Never the developers.
Because it seems that some developers, as demonstrated by Path, don’t give a rat’s arse about Steve’s idea of what privacy and sharing personal data should be. And perhaps some people at Apple don’t give a rat’s arse either. Otherwise I can’t understand why this has happened.
What is clear now is that Apple should have made the access to your contacts information as restricted as to the user’s geolocation data. After this, I bet they will. Soon, I hope. [Noted via Dave Winer]









Of course Android’s permission based system would have highlighted that a particular app wanted to access your address book…
Seems everything is no so rosy in Apple’s walled garden, where spyware roams free.
I need to start accumulating some of the unwritten technology blogger rules..
#1. If a CEO of a company says something that is contradicted by that company’s actions, assume he’s a lying bastard. Unless he’s Steve Jobs.
Please don’t forget who wrote the article.
You have to wonder, If Steve Jobs was so hot on privacy violations why this “ask every time” policy was not written into the strict guidelines Apple has for App submissions along with the stuff they already have like “no boobies, unless you are a big company with lots of money”
Because he was BSing everyone?
Steve Jobs, Bullshitting people!!!, surely you jest sir. Saint Steve of Cupertino was as honest as the day is long (in the extreme north during December)
You mean that FBI profile might have been accurate? Heaven forbid…
Lets analyze a practice from a company procedure from 2 years ago, and see if it holds true in the present day. There couldn’t possibly be way a loop hole can be found, in hind site, once a story has been publicized. Hackers can surely leave well enough alone and not go there, just because.
Look, heres a little history lesson. Where there is a will, there is a way. All Apple can do, is recognize it and follow through. So sorry they are not perfect.
Are there any other technological security risks from a few years ago that hasn’t been taken advantaged of today? By companies with ulterior motives other than what they represent themselves as.
Seriously Giz UK, quit posting Diaz articles. Some of us steer well clear of Giz US just to avoid his bullshit Apple- and Jobs-obsession posing as tech journalism.
Maybe people should watch the whole interview and go to 4002. “……we need editorial more than ever right now….”
http://allthingsd.com/20100607/steve-jobs-at-d8-the-full-uncut-interview/
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