I recently had the misfortune of spending a couple of days travelling up and down the spine of a very soggy Britain on trains. Now don’t get me wrong — I like trains. But the British rail system is seriously screwed up. Why, though? We invented the damn things!
The numero uno problem with British trains is the cost. Compared to pretty much everywhere in the world — and especially compared with our European neighbours — the price we pay for the pleasure of travelling on Britain’s rail network is downright insane. Per kilometre, the average season ticket costs 14 shiny pennies — that’s almost double the next most expensive, Germany (and they have trains which travel up freaking mountains). To put that in perspective: a 20-mile commute into London from Woking (you poor, poor person if that’s your commute) will cost you £3,268 a year. Similar-distance journeys in Germany and Spain will cost just £705 and £653 respectively. That’s nearly four times more expensive.
Day trippers don’t get off any easier either — The Beatles might’ve had a Ticket to Ride, but it probably cost them an arm and a leg: 24p per kilometre, to be precise, which again is a good 60% more than the next most expensive. Yeah, you can get good discounts if you book in advance and travel at 4 in the morning, via Swindon and Milton Keynes, but that defeats the point of trains. If I want inconvenience and booking in advance, I’ll get a plane. Trains are meant to be something you can pitch up on, out of the blue, and jump on with the minimum of hassle.
Train cost also fails in one other fairly crucial comparison — to cars. All things considered, a train ticket should be less than the price of petrol for a journey. After all, if you travel by car you also have to pay for insurance, road tax and depreciation (and things like tyre wear, if you want to be pedantic). Cars are also more convenient, especially if you’re lugging a bunch of Christmas presents around with you. Especially with the oncoming advent of self-driving cars and road trains, cars are often a lot more convenient than trains.
And before any of you start jumping to the defence of National Rail, it’s not like we get an amazing service for all the dosh we fork over. Overcrowding is rampant on all the peak services around the country — to be technical, we have one of the worst passenger-to-seat ratios in Europe. More simply put though, the 0821 to London Waterloo is like a cattle carriage, with people crammed in, 100 deep, nose-to-armpit. It’s not just commuter trains though: I’ve been stuck on tiny regional trains in Wales, where for hours on end people are crammed into that awkward little umbilical between carriages, trying to read over the sounds of screaming infants. Occasionally, the trains can be less overcrowded — non-commuter services, or particularly popular routes at non-busy times are often enjoyable, with enough space to sprawl over as many seats as you and your laptop can physically accommodate. Overall, though, the level of overcrowding in the British rail system is unacceptable.
Overcrowding isn’t the only other problem, either. In typical British fashion, the weather is also an issue. I don’t know if any of you have been on a train in Europe in the winter, but they seem to have these amazing, magical trains that can still function when there’s a pathetically tiny amount of snow on the rails. National Rail’s lack of ability (though to be fair, it’s more the whole British transport infrastructure than just the railways) to function in “wintry” conditions is pathetic. Even when the rail network doesn’t shut down all together, so-called “unseasonable” weather (like we’ve had in the South this morning, apparently — since when is snow in December unseasonable?) can see 20-minute commutes turn into hour-long marathons. Given that 2.5 million people use the rail network every day, that’s an absolute shitload of time spent standing on trains trying to avoid eye contact, rather than being in an office reading Gizmodo being productive. So, it’s not just for my own sake that I wish National Rail would sort their shit out — it’s in the best interests of the economy.
There’s one other complaint about the British rail system — the trains just aren’t as good. We don’t have a proper high-speed rail infrastructure, and even the proposed High Speed 2 rail link that’s going to be built (for an eye-wateringly large sum) will only benefit people who travel between the really major cities. Compare this to places like Greece (not the first place you’d look to for shining examples of efficiency, you’d think), where the high-speed rail link is well-established, and was designed to put 90% of the population within 50km of a high-speed station. This turns high-speed rail from a convenience into the travel backbone of the entire country. It’s even more pronounced in Japan, where double-decker bullet trains run up and down 2700km of specially-built track that runs at 250kph.
In Britain, then, how fast are our trains? Answer: not very. In fact, apart from the Eurostar, trains in Britain are limited to 125mph. Considering that this speed was first achieved by a steam locomotive in 1938, that’s quite pathetic. The simple fact is, our rail network lags behind the rest of the developed world (apart from North America, that is). The real shame is that it didn’t have to be this way. Britain was the pioneer of the railways — between 1830 and 1840, the national economy did pretty much nothing but build railways. It was all going rosily until around the 1950s, when increasing road usage saw passenger numbers start to dip. Simultaneously, the newly-nationalised rail industry failed to invest in the rail network, preferring instead to patch everything up with gaffer tape and bodge it, rather than spend the cash.
When high-speed rail infrastructure started being built in Asia and Europe, the bosses of British Rail preferred to bury their heads in the sand. Rather than do what everyone else did and construct a new set of rails to carry a super-fast set of trains, the super-clever civil servants decided to try and make a train that would run on existing rails, but at the same time tried to make it gas-powered, rather than the more conventional electric or diesel. Needless to say, it was a massive financial black hole. Indeed, the project was so pathetically delayed that they developed another “interim” solution to the problem, building diesel trains that would run on existing rail systems — and this is what we’re left with today, our sad legacy of “high speed” rail networks. It’s only now that the British rail industry is starting to tentatively stick their noses into the 20th century, with the proposal to build a high-speed rail link from London to Birmingham. For the UK, though, it’s mostly too little, too late.
At the same time as British Rail was monumentally cocking up high-speed rail, it was also proceeding to gut the comprehensive railway infrastructure that had served the UK through two world wars and one world cup. Faced with an unprofitable and costly rail network (owing to years of under-investment during the World Wars, and the rise of road transport), a series of cuts called the “Beeching cuts” were enacted in the 1960s, and saw the closure of about a third of the 29,000km of railway lines that existed in 1949. Whilst this saved cash in the short run, it removed a lot of the “feeder” stations from the network, and pushed even more people towards road transport. Additionally, freight haulage, which was one of the biggest earners for the railways, saw a drop-off after the closure of the more regional networks. Slow hand-clap please for British Rail.
My final bugbear are the trains themselves. It used to be that you could take a journey on a train — dine in a proper restaurant, whilst taking in the magnificent views you can get in the Scottish Highlands. Now, you’ll eat a soggy egg & cress sandwich whilst crammed into your aisle seat, while your neighbour watches the latest Eastenders while wearing the leakiest pair of garish headphones you’ve ever seen. Want to do some work to get your mind off of it? Good luck. Wi-Fi on trains is terrible, and even those who’ve come equipped with MiFis will have to struggle with bad signal. These should be simple things to sort out, given that a lot of mobile and internet infrastructure runs alongside major train routes — even the tunnels on the Eurostar link (the only modern part of the British rail network) have cell reception. Given that one of the big attractions of train travel is that you can work on the train, sorting this stuff out would be really, really handy (and then maybe I’d think about paying £5 an hour for Wi-Fi).
So, where are we now? An over-crowded, woefully expensive, badly managed and painfully short-sighted system exists in the UK today. Serious investment would be needed to dig the infrastructure out of the hole it’s currently in. Firstly, an all-powerful regulator should be created, to effectively oversee and co-ordinate all of the different train operators, and kick their lazy arses into gear. Secondly, serious investment is needed. Current government plans seem to see rail as something that happens only in London — projects like CrossRail and High Speed 2, whilst all well and good, will be of most benefit to Londoners. Meanwhile, there’s thousands of miles of track in the North that would benefit massively from electrification. God knows that we’re paying enough money through fares at the moment — how about they start spending all of that to provide us with a decent, up-to-date, 21st century service? I want the British rail system to be good again. I like trains. I started out this article with the intention of saying something nice about trains. But the more I discover, and the more I write, the more I’m persuaded that nationalised British Rail well and truly screwed us over for the next few decades.













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Have to agree, having spent time living in Russia where there trains look like they were built in the 1930′s with wooden bench type seating they’re at least damn cheap (even taking into account local prices/salaries etc) and they manage to run in all weathers, major snow, temperatures in to minus 30, etc, etc… also the metro (underground) in Moscow is cheap and reliable.
Exactly! Most other parts of the world you get what you pay for. Plus the metro in St Petersberg is the most awesome underground in the world.
Moscows is just as beautiful, believe me it’s like visiting a museum
I would have to concur – Moscow’s is gorgeous. Really need to go back there at some point.
Digressing slightly, now that you’ve made it to an N4, will we be seeing you on G+?
Every thread i have read in the last week or so has some mention to Julians new N4…
You’re not reading enough threads then
maybe, I’m still weighing up the pros & cons.
How heavy are they?
not a fan of social network sites as prefer ‘real life’ so a heavy con…..
We meet in real life pretty frequently as well….
I live in Scotland, as such the only train operator is Scotrail. I commute from the Ayrshire coast to Glasgow every morning at peak time and there are always seats when I get on. In the two years I have been commuting, there have been very few delays. It is also not crazy expensive and we have nice new trains (class 380). However, I understand it may be different in England. I had the pleasure of going on a transpennine express train. On the way to Manchester it broke and then a line fault meant it was 60 minutes late and on the way back (5pm) I had some guy awkwardly grinding me for an hour…. I feel sorry for you guys down their
You must be the only one, the main commuter line between Edinburgh and Glasgow is just as bad if not worse than any English line. It is criminally bad for overcrowding with prime time commuting trains sometimes being relegated to having far too few carriages per service. Horribly slow as well, the line supposedly can make the run between cities in 15 minutes but half the distance apparently takes at least double that on the same line. And if there is even the slightest bit of weather it causes chaos, the line constantly floods and even a small about of snow causes delays, moderate wind blows leaves on the line and stops the service.
And as to expense it is just as expensive as in England, and in the 6 years I spent commuting into Edinburgh it went up and up and the service got worse. My season ticket went from around £100 a month to close to £150 almost a whole third of an increase in half a decade with declining service. It got really bad when they started laying on more of the SPT trains on the main line for the gimmick of a dining car that was never open and the seats much smaller with tables that cut you off at the knees.
And I have never been on the Aberdeen/Dundee trains and not have it packed to the gunnels. And it isn’t cheap in comparison to some of the south bound lines, I can get a first class ticket for the same price going south at a reasonable time and the train will be on time, comfortable and I get a sit down meal.
I will admit I do see the scotrail twitter account posting almost daily that the Edinburgh to Glasgow service is only three carriages instead of six. I actually pay more for my ticket but its a zonecard so it gets me on the subway in Glasgow and on busses etc. It is surprising how things can vary so much between one company!
I just read the thing about the buffet cars! ridiculous! also I really don’t see the need for first class on trains such as this, it is a short journey so surely more seats would be better! Does first class ever get declassified? The trains in my area are just one class, 7 carriages long at peak time!
The buffet cars are for intercity services rather than commuter services, that said, during the week Virgin’s at seat service isn’t too bad in 1st class.
The buffet cars are ONLY on the commuter services. Yet to use a Scotrail intercity(only the one of those anyway that isn’t a commuter line) that had a buffet car.
That’s definitely backwards thinking!
The commuter trains have no room for a buffet/restaurant car, whereas the intercity services shouldn’t be short (now replaced by a shop on most).
Not really even at busy times it is often the only empty area of the train. The occasional MSP can be spotted using it and someone on the last leg of a first class ticket from one of the main coast lines. Really no point in it for a half hour trip for the difference in price.
Good to hear they at least get some services right. However the bulk of scotrail’s business is on or passes through that main commuter line between Edinburgh and Glasgow. That they can’t get it sorted is ridiculous, not even a hundred miles of track and they can’t keep it going.
I can totally understand them for long trips. It doesn’t me on some trains but on the Edinburgh ones or as I said the Transpennine express onces having a first class/buffet coach for trips of about an hour seems crazy when they can’t give everyone seats. Scotrail and Network rail do seem to be pumping lots of money in to the strathclyde network though. The paisley canal line just got electrified and they are getting new class 380s and most of the platforms on the Ayrshire coast line got extended for the new trains. Plus the new timetable is giving four trains every hour! When they try they can get it right, they just need to do that across the full network!
They are spending a lot of money on station improvements across the board. But they do need to spend the money on line upgrades which don’t seem to be happening as they don’t want to take the risks on the main lines.
The Strathclyde section of the network really needed the money spent on it as the trains were falling apart. The rest isn’t far behind what it was, the trains are in better condition and newer but they need new track capable of supporting faster and larger trains rather than muddling by with the old stock.
One of the other things they are doing is going back and reactivating old lines. It is nice to see more services to place s like Alloa and it takes pressure off other lines but its a waste of money to backtrack on old decisions like that and not fix the main problems that are with the main lines.
Stations are the responsibility of the franchise holder, as is the rolling stock I believe.
Track, power and signals are Network Rail’s fault.
They are both equally crap. But it is a two part equation, both companies are responsible in part for the whole shebang.
And therein lies the issue with privatisation….
Ive had the ungodly privilege of years of experience of both the Ayr/Glasgow line and Glasgow/Edinburgh and I would agree with both statements. If you wanted a poster child of polar opposites they would be prime candidates. Pound for pound the Ayr/Glasgow line is the best line one Ive ever had to use for commuting and the Glasgow/Edinburgh is the worst. Additionally correct me if Im wrong but I believe per mile Glasgow/Edinburgh is the most expensive line in the UK and by extension Europe I guess?
Agree with you 100% Chris. It is an absolute, pathetic joke.
Of course, to sort out the rail network will cost money so I guess that means season ticket prices will have to go up everywhere. Again!
Get a Scooter or an efficient motorbike like a P-Twin 500cc engine or something and don’t use the train.
I bought a GPZ 500 for £600, done 11,000 miles only and was in good condition. Cost me £40 a year insurance and gets me 250miles to 14 Litres of Petrol.
Can moan all you like but just don’t use the train :S
So get a motorbike or don’t complain :s That’s not a solution.
We’re british we’ll moan till it gets fixed.
“We’re british we’ll moan till it gets fixed.”
You have 4 surplus words on the end of that sentence.
No need for a motorbike, most cars do the same journey as a train for far less cost and in greater comfort. Add extra passengers and the journey cost falls dramatically in comparison.
But with a motorbike you get cost, speed AND fun.
Damn, i forgot about the fun bit – easily done when the weather is as miserable as it has been recently
I’m still having more fun on two wheels than four. just requires a few layers.
Pretty much agree with everything but the speed issue. It’s ok in larger countries where there is a large distance between stops, but when my line has 14 stops to london in roughly 30 miles, I don’t see speed being an issue.
What the govt. should really do is privatise and scrap the lot and start again. Have everything built in the UK bu UK (tax paying) businesses. Manufacture and production goes up, unemployment goes down, we get a nice shiny railway that works, and doesn’t cost a fortune to use. Make the trains two-tier, redevelop all the stations and bridges. The infrastructure overhaul would get the country running properly again.
I imagine it would also be cheaper than constantly bailing out the banks / eu countries in problems.
It’s not just the bridges, it’s tunnels the trains go under, some bridges are classed as historic land marks and are protected, so to knock them down and rebuild them for a train to fit under or go over is out of the question.
Some people mention the lenght of the train, but then you have to wonder if the gound the train is traveling on can take the added weight let alone the bridges, and are the station platforms long enough? You may say expand them but in some places there is just no room as there are other things in the way- in my home town of Burnley on on side of the platform theres a viaduct the train runs over (and in the 50′s collapsed as it was built on quicksand!) and on the other end there is such a sharp curve that a longer train would physically not be able to manage it! As for rebuilding the infastructure from scratch- isn’t that what HS2 is all about- it’s main role will be to go from London to Manchester replacing the WCML (admitedly the WCML runs to Preston not Manchester but getting to the heart of Lancashire is only a 30 min communte ride away and us northerners don’t really matter to those in the City!).
But aren’t the rail systems in other countries heavily subsidised?
Who’s going to pay for the updating, the tax payer? F that, people won’t agree to foot the bill for the private companies that run the network.
There’s no incentive to make it better because for a lot of people the train is the only option, more so if you work in London, so screw you public, we don’t give a shit what you think, pay the price or lose your job.
Private companies don’t run the networks, we (the taxpayers) do. The trains/franchise is run by franchise operators who are responsible for the stations and rolling stock not the lines.
i get the train twice every week from Sheffield to York and back whilst im at uni (a very short journey). If I didn’t have a rail card this would be extremely expensive but I don’t see the point in getting a ticket because they are NEVER checked. I keep a tally of the amount of times my ticket has been checked and the current total is my ticket has been checked 6 times and not checked 27 times. That is just pathetic. To make money with trains you have to get people to buy tickets and they purely don’t because its too easy to get away with it.
Secondly they are very unreliable, whilst travelling last week I had at least 10 trains on the very short journey that I could get just cancelled out of thin air, not delayed or anything just cancelled, hence I was late for uni even though my dad had to drive me to uni because of the lack of the >10 trains that were supposed to be running that morning.
I used to take a short journey from Oxford to Culham (3 stops) whilst I was doing a placement year as part of my degree. The barriers at Oxford were always open in the morning/evening and Culham doesn’t have any. Tickets were hardly ever checked on the train.
I didn’t feel right not buying a ticket so I used to shell out £70 a month but it wound me up no end that a large number- probably the majority of other passengers would just buy an open 30 day return for each direction which cost about £3 and only buy a new one when the 30 days were up or when it was checked.
If everyone actually paid for their tickets then the prices wouldn’t need to be so high for everyone else.
couldnt agree more. i still buy a ticket every time because thats how i was brought up but there is no need to
“I don’t see the point in getting a ticket because they are NEVER checked”
The point is to pay for a service you use and not be a thief.
The reason continental trains are generally so much cheaper is that they’re even more heavily subsidised by the taxpayer than British ones are. People will often point to the fact that SNCF makes a profit while forgetting that almost all its liabilities (and maintenance responsibilities) were transferred into RFF which is just a black hole for French public spending.
As for high speed rail in the UK, the problem is that the country is just too densely populated for swathes of high-speed rail to be easily built. HSR tracks have very stringent limits on banking, turn radius and gradient and it’s just not feasible to replace existing UK main lines with it.
The Advanced Passenger Train was actually a very good way of getting round the problem of having to use existing track and its cancellation had nothing to do with the prototype being powered by gas turbines (as was the prototype TGV). Most of its problems stemmed from a design team that was largely drawn from the aerospace community (who clashed with the more traditional BREL staff) and early problems with the tilting mechanism.
Your argument about subsidisation falls down though when you consider that british people pay one of the highest percentages of tax in world. I now live in Munich, which is the most expensive city in Germany, and the trains here are excellent and cheap and the taxes here are still less than the uk.
5 people can travel anywhere in Bavaria on any transport system (train, tram, bus) for a whole day and night and it costs £20…..TOTAL! That’s £4 per person! I got a train to my parents from london the other day and it cost £40. It should only take an hour and it took two and a half.
Almost everything is cheaper here and wages are nearly double what you would get in the UK. I wish everyone in the UK could live in another western European country for just one year so that you can see what a joke the UK has become.
Tax revenue in Germany is about 41% of annual GDP. It’s 39% in the UK.
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-2242158/The-families-hammered-73-tax–income-tax-National-Insurance-combine-loss-benefits.html
How does posting the marginal tax rate for married couples with two children and one income prove your point?
All taxes eventually fall on individuals but pointing out a different distribution of burden doesn’t change the fact that for entire economy, German taxes are higher than in the UK.
“Wages are nearly double…”
Apologies, but I’m calling that out as absolutely tripe. Source please.
http://www.rff.fr/en/investors-224/our-key-figures
RFF Net profit (loss) (€ billion)
2006 – (0.3), 2007 – (0.8), 2008 – 11.8, 2009 – 0.3, 2010 – 0.2, 2011 – 0.2
Now, admittedly those aren’t full books, but it looks hardly like a black hole?
And the €3.9bn of state funding they receive each year?
That isn’t a black hole, that is common sense. The state should run all railways. State ownership for every industry.
Viva la revolution!
Let’s all go buy Che Guevara t-shirts and tell everyone how great Castro and Chavez are.
€3.2Bn is 1 tenth of 1 percent of the €2.12Tn French GDP, the investment of which reaps huge rewards for the citizenry who travel the rails. And the industry which also uses it to ship goods and and resources.
Perspective is a wonderful thing. I come from Australia where our national and local rail services are easily bested by squashed ants.
“Peak hour” trains run every 8-10 minutes… this is in CBD (Zone 1 equivalent).
As for national rail services? The trains are so old, Father Time was a wee lil’un when our national rail services celebrated the centenary.
And what do we pay for the pleasure of these wonderful services?
“Zone 1″ only tickets are ~£19
“Zone 1-2″ tickets are ~£40
I can’t tell you the prices for national rail because, let’s face it, I don’t hate myself enough to travel on national rail in Australia.
Apart from that, it’s an amazing country
tempted to make a pun about ‘convict stock’ but I won’t
There are 3 times as many people living in the UK as there are in Australia, living in about a thirtieth of the space, so it’s no wonder the trains aren’t as good. The UK is a rich country with a high population density. Public transport should be easy.
I agree with you in that Australia is not as densely populated as UK.
However, if we’re to take Sydney vs London as an example, the people/sq km density is on average ~8300/sq km, where as London is ~5100/sq km (i got these figures from an article written in 2011).
So whilst the national rail has a reason to suck ass, the local public transportation in Sydney has no excuse being as crap as it is. As a result, peak hour traffic in Sydney is basically all the time because everybody drives. ALL. THE. TIME.
A 15 minute drive could easily take 45mins, unless you decide to visit the local grocery store between 3am-4am… at which time they are of course closed.
There is no way that Sydney is more densely populated than London. Sydney’s density is 2058/sq km according to Wikipedia, not 8300! (London’s is 5200/ sq km, so pretty close to your figures). That makes it 40% as population-dense as London.
The prices you mention for public transport are still less than the UK. And I don’t think you can compare the zoning system. In Melbourne, for example, zone 1 and 2 is the whole metropolitan system, whereas in London it goes all the way to 9. A weekly zone 1-9 ticket costs £79. More than double the Melbourne zone 1-2 ticket, which costs £34 at current exchange rates. And that’s another thing, the exchange rate is at a historic level at the moment, which makes the Melbourne ticket sound more expensive than it really is. Let’s compare the average UK salary (apparently £26,000) with the average Australian salary ($65,000, or £42,000). So Australians earn 60% more and pay 230% less for their public transport. I’m not going to compare the quality of the two services because clearly London’s is more comprehensive, but you can’t say that it isn’t expensive.
All very fair points. I should have wiki’d my figures.
Thing is tho, Sydney transport still sucks and is the most infuriating part of all Sydney commuters’ day.
Having used both public transport systems, I am happy to pay £29.20 for a Zone 1-2 ticket here (because i don’t usually travel outside these zones) any day over paying anything at all for Sydney transport.
I guess my point is, london pt may be archaic and slightly over priced, there are modern cities that are still much further behind.
Have you tried driving in London though? Same problem as Sydney. A 15 minute drive can take 45 minutes. Even worse on weekends, when weekday rail commuters get in their cars and drive. This is not an Australian problem, it’s a problem in any big city. At least Australians also pay less for the petrol they burn while sitting in traffic jams.
That’s the point I’m trying to make though. I don’t drive in London because I never need to. The pt here is so much more reliable and useful than Sydney’s.
I can get to absolutely anywhere I need/want to go without ever needing a car in London.
Hence my “perspective” comment…
Nice written article, a good read.
I see the problem as a political one, we all know it’s going to need a huge investment and it’s going to take a long time to get right. politicians will not take that risk as it doesn’t benefit them in the short term.
Where I live, Harrogate, we have a terribly old train service which desperately needs something doing with it. The line was build many years ago and as such the tunnels along the line (which connects Harrogate to Leeds and York) are too small to accommodate overhead wires, as such we are stuck with some of the god damnit dirtiest, noisiest and plain unpleasant diesel trains ever made. There’s always signal failures and getting out of Leeds when there is a single leaf on the line could take up to 30 minutes.
But the bit that annoys me the most is the organisation of the line, at peak times and weekends it’s not uncommon to have a train turn up with 2 carriages. 2 carriages for everyone from Harrogate going into/coming home from work in Leeds. And they have the cheek to charge almost £8 per day to get into Leeds. You can park in Leeds for £4 some places. It just doesn’t add up!
I remember this being a problem when I worked in Leeds, with the same 30 year old diesel trains you described; a train at about 5.30pm weekday, from Leeds to Manchester via Bradford and Halifax, and it has two coaches.
Everyday, the same people fighting to get onto the same train. All for the want of another carriage.
I think the biggest trouble we have, and this goes for the underground too, is that having pioneered train and underground travel, we have version 1 of everything. Albeit v1.78 by now.
Other countries have been able to learn from our initial mistakes, and build bigger and better versions starting at version 2.x 3.x etc. Back when the peasants were cheap labour.
Also not being part of continental Europe has meant that we have missed out on economies of scale with inter country trains and compatible train gauges etc.
Population: The reason London gets all of the upgrades is 1/5ish of the population lives here! Overcrowding is because of too many people, not a lack of trains. Remember how amazing public transport was during the Olympics? Same service, only about 20% of the passengers had gone on holiday.
Rush hour in any other major station in Europe is virtually a ghost town compared to any of the MANY London mainline stations.
London also suffers as we all live too far from work. If everyone lived 15 mins away from their work, ie 3 stops, like 30 years ago it’d be lovely.
Go to Tokyo. There you will see that the problem in the uk IS NOT “too many people” the problem in the uk is lack of infrastructure. Tokyo has a population of 34,000,000 people. Thats over 4 times as many people in London! And it runs like clockwork and I mean trains arrive and depart literally to the minute. And it’s cheaper.
Agreed, but I don’t think as many people all pile into the centre in Tokyo.
A quick scan of some figures may back me up here, as only twice as many people (6M) ride the Tokyo Metro & Toei per day as the Underground (3M). Looking at that as a percentage, only 17% of Tokyo residents use the tube, compared with 37.5% of Londoners (based on 8M pop.).
Adding in all of the Nation Rail overground train stations within Zone 6. You could argue our problem is too much infrastructure ie too complicated/too many branches and stations to run efficiently.
In tokyo there are considerably more lines than just the Metro and the toei lines. At a guess I think there are at least 10 different lines operating in tokyo. I don’t know if you have been to Tokyo or not but I am assuming you haven’t because it seems pretty obvious that the Tokyo transport system transports far more passengers than London does.
Yes, as I said, 6 million use the Tokyo Metro and Toei lines where as 3 million use the LDN Underground.
But just FYI…
Tokyo = 13 lines on metro and toei combined – 142 stations
London = 11 lines – 270 stations
as for overground stations in the “Tokyo Commuter Belt” = 73
London Zones 1-6 = 357
So I still say we have too much infrastructure.
You do realise that building the Shinkansen network left JNR £212 billion in debt? The various privatised companies that followed paid about a tenth of that for the network leaving taxpayers to swallow the cost.
Debt or not it runs on time and the woman serves beer from her trolley. Good enough for me.
You seem to have confused the Greater Tokyo area with Tokyo Metropolis. The latter has a population of about 13m and a comparable population density to Greater London.
Have you ever been to tokyo? It’s one city. You can define it as more but if you have been there or even if you have a look at it from google maps you will see it is ONE city.
Chris,
i live in Woking and commute to Waterloo everyday. my season ticket is £2780 for 12 months. I think your price includes a zone 1-6 London travel card.
Also the reason Woking tickets are so expensive is because trains bound for Portsmouth, Southampton, Basingstoke, Alton, Salisbury, Exeter, Weymouth, Bournemouth(the majority of their network) make Woking their first stop so it has lots of trains that run direct to Waterloo making it VERY popular. the more popular the service, the more expensive it is.
It does indeed — All the fares I quoted there included the inner-city transport, as it’s often a key part of your commute.
It’s simple every other country subsidises public transport like they should , but Thatcher stopped all that at the oil lobbies behest. She ranted about how public transport should make money and whether it is a train or a tram every public transport system in the UK has suffered ever since.
I’m surprised it took so long for this nonsensical theory to be put forward. Rail pre-Thatcher was awful – it was poor quality, old stock, poorly maintained lines and still over priced and run by people who were out to make the best for themselves not the passenger.
That isn’t to say it has advanced signficantly from then, there are still loads of problems, but to even claim it was better during the decades of government underfunding and mismanagement is utter nonsense. It is almost as bad as people who blame her for closing Scottish ship yards which were unprofitable, lacked any quality output and poorly run.
I don’t like the rail set-up as it now it, but I would rather that then have any government mismanange it even more than they have done for the last 50+ years.
P.S. I have absolutely no affinity to Thatcher whatsoever I just get annoyed by stupid ideas based on political posturing rather than fact.
Is it because British trains are not British Rail but 28 different train operators across Great Britain, all run to make a profit for it’s share holders and not actually to run effectively at affordable prices.
I’ve become so fed up travelling by train from Sheffield to my parents 220km away that I now cycle. It takes about 8 and a half hours, last time the road was flooded and I was knocked off by a hailstone the size of a Fiat 500. You know what? It was still better than the train.
I always try to book online and reserve seats when possible… but then on the day do firstlatewestern actually bother to put the reservations on the seats? No they ****ing don’t. I cannot remember the last time I reserved seats and actually got them it’s that long ago!
I cant work out the pricing, I take the train to the girlfriends once or twice a week, is about an hours ride. If I’m organised and book it in advance it can be as little as £2.00 each way, however if I turn up on the day its £17.50.
Also some weekends they have cheap tickets, other times theyre full price regardless of what time of day or how far you book in advance?
I have no idea what influences the ticket prices either! Its not numbers of passengers because the train I take is always empty….
I’ve often pondered this myself…where does all the money go? It costs me more to travel to an airport (60 miles away) by train than it does to fly to Scotland. An airline has way more costs and hardware than any train network. On the plane I don’t have to stand either. I drive a Jag XKR and guess what, the train is MORE expensive to travel 2nd class than to drive in my Jag and that’s including tax, insurance, fuel and servicing. So who is milking our rail? It’s one giant con.
Can I request that you post sources on all of your comparative pricing data and performance statistics? This subject is a general complaint that is usually based on flawed data.
I would suggest you look at the analysis done of this very subject by More or Less on Radio 4 some months back. There are many factors to consider when evaluating the value for money of the rail network as well as including direct (ticket costs) and indirect costs (tax subsidies) to the user. Once these factors are taken into account the actual cost and efficiency of the UK rail network paints a very different picture. I’m trying to find the published analysis online but I’m having difficulty tracking it down, but from memory we’re in the upper middle in Europe. Not the best, but by no means anywhere near the worst.
Continual under funding in infrastructure over the past 50 years is the major problem that needs to be fixed, and needs public funding to pay for it.
agreed.
Here in the SW the infrastructure is terrible! 2h Plymouth to Penzance (its 80 miles!) 1h Plymouth to Exeter its quicker to drive. The whole of the region cut of once again due to flooding this week, yet they won’t make the investment to move the coastal line in land, but can find the £B’s for HS2 and Crossrail. But hey it’s only Devon and Cornwall where you go for your hols so we don’t matter.
The sources for comparative pricing and performance come from a report published by think-tank Just Economics earlier this year, which compared the rail systems of the UK, France, Germany, Spain and Greece. (Disclaimer: the report was commissioned by the RMT, but Just Economics is regarded as being a decent think-tank, and the report had a good reception.)
Comparing the UK to those countries gives a very misleading representation of the data as a whole. The tax based subsidies in those countries are among the highest in Europe so ticket costs per mile will be substantially lower, with overall costs probably being similar.
The report, as most commissioned reports usually do, gives the answer the commissioning body wants to hear. The brief will limit the scope of the question, and frame the discussion in a certain way. I can only find the executive summary, is the full report online anywhere?
I did a charity hitchhike around europe earlier this year and i learnt many many things. A people will go out of there way to help others even if they have little themselves. and B we are ripped off in terms of transport.
somebody paid for the 3 of us to use the underground in budapest, Hungary and it cost easily less than a pound each for a day rider on the tube. which was much more spacious than the london underground too.
I used to commute to college from home it was about 13 miles.
I could expect to be delayed easily 4 or 5 times per week.
If we could just look at how mainland europe manages its rail systems we could probably get our system into shape by the end of the decade
Well, let’s be honest there. A similar distance (Woking to central London) is the same as say Wiesbaden to Offenbach in Germany where I live, and that doesn’t cost £705, that costs £1608 a year, more than double what Chris Mills suggested. Just like there are cheaper places in the UK outside of London, he probably took the cheapest places in Germany and compared with the most expensive in Britain.
Now take Telford to Birmingham which is 26miles and much closer in comparison to Wiesbaden & Offenbach (in size and population between them), and that only costs £1556, LESS than in Germany!
Also, let’s take a 93mile journey between Bournemouth & London (the financial capitol), If I want a single journey tomorrow morning, leaving 8am, that will cost me at the cheapest fare, £26,50, taking 2hr13minutes. The cheapest fare between Cologne & Frankfurt (Same distance and Germany’s financial capital and 2hr20minutes) you are looking at £39! More expensive than the UK. Take in the cheapest return at approx 6pm same day and you are looking at £78. Granted, this is one of the routes in Germany that has high speed rail, and you can do this in 1hr10minutes each way, but that would cost you £108. A same day return for the UK would be £51 – which is the cheaper now?
Should I mention that if you take that further in the future, say 5th Jan, that costs a mere £11 in the UK where as the cheapest German fare is double that.
It is such a cliche when the media starts going on about how expensive and poor UK rail is compared to the rest of the world, but so little of it is really based on fact. Sure, rail can be great in many European countries, but my experience is that UK rail doesn’t really do too bad. I live in the one European country which tends to get the most praise for it’s rail network, but the reality is so different to what the UK press like to point out.
We have massive problems with reliability of long and short distance services these days, with 90% of the German trains I have taken in the last two years to be either cancelled or delayed (I have a friend that travels every week from Oldenburg to Frankfurt, and only twice has his booked train actually left the station in the last year. Every other time it was cancelled and had to take another service).
I flew back from London yesterday, and the S-bahn from Frankfurt airport was every bit the can of sardine that a peak hour London Underground train can be. And a couple of months before that, it only cost me £2.90 from South Quay to Heathrow which is something like 27 (actual) stop. When I arrived at this end, I paid £3.40 from Frankfurt Airport to Offenbach, 10 stops away (and yes, much shorter!)
So, year, I do get tired of these slanted UK Press reports on British trains. They are NOT as bad as many of you claim. Sure, I do understand they have problems, but there are certainly no more problems than we currently have here in Germany, which is always described as a great network.
I’m sorry but unless you happen to be the unluckiest person in Germany you are a bullshitter. I also live in Germany I can say with absolute certainty that what you are saying is simply not true. German transom services are excellent and considerably cheaper than the UK. Very rarely are the trains late. AND when they are late they don’t have a knock on effect for the entire rest of the day (like the UK).
I used to have to work an extra 5 hours a week on average in UK simply because the trains were never on time.
This is in no way a slanted UK press report as you put it. Unless the services in Offenbach are considerably worse than the rest of Germany then you are greatly exaggerating.
No. I am neither unlucky, nor bullshitting.
Your love for Deutche Bahn is not shared by me, nor a great deal of this country.
But, it is certainly good for Deutche Bahn that at least they have your voice defending them, to the point where you throw insults at others who think differently.
Although I don’t dislike Deutsche Bahn anywhere near as much as these people, there certainly are some people that do.
http://www.bahn-hasser.de/
(I think even if you can’t read German, you will understand the URL)
I have to disagree with you – the German transport system is MUCH more reliable than the one in the UK. You seriously must be the most unlucky person in Germany. Obviously, Germans are prone to complaining a lot and we expect 100% reliability, but from my experience, both commuting in Berlin when back home as well as taking medium and long distance trains, journeys in general are mostly on time and I have seldom had more than 5 minutes delay on 6h journeys with long distance trains. Just go to Berlin Central Station and look on the departure board, you will find maybe 5% of trains having a ’5 minutes delayed’ remark but almost never you see a cancelled train or one that is seriously delayed. And as Pleasethink said before, there are almost never knock-on effects, you might get stranded for an hour as your connection train already left but that ensures that the whole network as a whole stays operational.
Let’s contrast this to the UK. On my daily commute from the suburbs of London to Waterloo, once one train is delayed or a signal breaks on an entirely different line also operated by SWT (but no other connection to my station), all hell breaks loose. The trains are then delayed or cancelled, trains don’t arrive without warning or not one passenger assistent, the call centre in India or the guard has an idea what is going on, I am wondering what they are doing beside sitting on the train and making one announcement every 30 minutes (and why do commuter trains need guards in first place).
Quick example – today, 8.15am. Board says that my train is 4 minutes delayed. A train that looks like ours stops at 8.18am, the guard on board didn’t open the doors, it was just sitting on the platform, leaving 2 minutes later. Board was updated, now sayid 8:21am as the new arrival time for my train – which actually pproached at 8.21am but just rushes through the station, it didn’t stop! The board gave out a wonderful ‘Correction’ message, deleted the train a minute after it passed through and asks me to wait another 15 minutes or so (next train was already announced to be 10 minutes delayed and was then delayed further and further). Obviously the service counter had no idea, the call centre had no idea, so I left the station to work from home and I was charged £1.60 by Oyster for enjoying about 30 minutes on the station.
Back to Germany, the Berlin overground network (which is already less reliable than the underground for obvious reasons) had winter issues recently with about 30-40% of the trains out of service due to a construction and subsequent maintenance fault. And there were cancellations and delays, but Deutsche Bahn managed to at least have a service every 20 minutes from most suburb stations and even though the trains were shorter and less frequent, most people got to work – something I can’t say of myself this morning in London.
So I really do think that the German trains as a whole are more reliable and the stats by Deutsche Bahn support this claim, with delays way under 10%.
Another issue is the price though, it obviously really depends on where you are. Berlin travel ticket is much cheaper than a monthly card in London, some other routes might be more expensive, long distance trains are not the cheapest in Germany (depending on when you book) but they do offer a good service and the ICE high speed trains can go up to 300 km/h on some routes (though share tracks with normal trains on others, depending again on where you are). Overall though, it is a much nicer experience and if I may say, trains in general are less overcrowded than in the UK, which should also be taken into account.
Oh this is spot on.
Going from the Bullet Train to SouthWest Trains is like going from a Ferrari to a Horse and Cart.
My commute (from close to Guildford to zone 1) is not that unbearable, I get a seat 95% of the time but then I’m getting a train at 7:30 in the morning. By the time it gets to Wimbledon you’ve got no chance of a seat, and Clapham Junction you’ll be lucky to even get in the train.
Tell me about it! Watched people try to force themselves onto the train this morning at Earlsfield, you’ve gotta be brave to try that.
I love the announcers though. Yesterday was “please use all the doors, there are sixteen, not just the two at the rear of the train you know!”
Oh and the winner from last week was “Due to a fault the air conditioner in the third car is blowing cold air. We advise customers to move to the adjacent cars.” During Rush hour. That was going to end well.
As much as I like to (and do) complain I don’t have exceptional issues on my line with punctuality, it’s just expensive.
Without a doubt though the travelling experience on trains in Europe and Japan is much nicer on standard trains than in the UK.
Okay, to answer this question we must first ask another: What the Hell is Wrong With Britain? Complex, I know, but therein lies the real problem, because every other problem is merely a symptom of the first.
Scotrail’s just as bad. ^^; To get from Glasgow to where I live (and vice versa), there are only two trains per hour — and that goes down to something like one train per hour on Sundays! On top of which, always always there are only TWO carriages at the most crowded time of the day, meaning people having to stand, or being shifted to another train (recently happened to me — had to get the Edinburgh train when they offered to make an extra stop to the town I live in). Then there are the various line failures or wrong kinds of leaves on the line…
Seriously, is this what we’re paying for? ^^;
I think top gear had a point, when they attached 3 caravans to a car. I realize that this is not the idea, but seriously, why do trains have to cost so much? Infrastructure, ill grant, but the locos themselves?
There are a lot of things wrong with railways in Britain, but this is a terrible account of the problems.
“All things considered, a train ticket should be less than the price of petrol for a journey. After all, if you travel by car you also have to pay for insurance, road tax and depreciation”
Yeah, no. Train operators also pay insurance, tax and have to lease and maintain the trains, so these costs obviously are reflected in the price to customers. You’re also paying for someone to actually drive the train you’re on (And btw, there’s no such thing as road tax).
You seem to be confused about who runs the railways and who’s responsible for their oversight. There’s no such body as ‘British Rail’, they ceased to operate a long time ago. BR was replaced with the PRIVATISED Railtrack in 1994 – a Conservative government move, not Labour (personally I’m not a fan of either) – which was universally regarded as being a disaster for the railways. You advocate stronger regulation, and yet you imply nationalisation is the root of the problems? Ehhh? Network Rail (effectively a nationalised company) has been instrumental in improving things substantially after the private sector demonstrated its incompetence at running public services.
if you think the trains are bad try the buses, after a while of the overpriced, unreliable and generally unpleasant travel on them the trains will seem wonderful by comparison
In 1982 I traveled from Waterloo to Edinburgh on the Intercity 125. They were shoehorning people on the train at Waterloo, and more boarded at each stop. No seats right from the start, I had to sit on my case in the space between carriages. A fellow Scot sat beside me and we started chatting, getting on famously, when the call came that the buffet car was open. Do you take a wee drink the guy said, and I acknowledged in the affirmative, so off he trotted, and came back, I can only describe as, laden, with beverages. By the time we got off at Edinburgh Waverley, we could barley stand we were that rat arsed. The guy was the late Russell Hunter, the actor who played Lonely in the old Callen show, with Ed Wood Wood Wood.
Thank you forsharing, I like stories.
Chris,
Many of us experience all this fairly frequently. I have an experience that involved being actually assaulted by obviously under-qualified unsuitable rail staff at Reading Station about a year ago.
I am in a hurry, but this is something we put together to try to help the networks, and they have in fact taken some if it aboard:
http://owonder.com/ti/ukrail
Note that the British, or should I say, English, are great at war and pomp (Olympics, Jubilee etc), but day to day life is a disaster. I’ve travelled to Europe and lived in the US, and we are pretty unique. Note that the Indian railways that WE built are some of the unsafest in the world!
I think the first thing they need to do is bring all of the rail service under one carrier in a semi-nationalised company, much like Deutsche Bahn or even the BBC. Separating the infrastructure and network and then handing out franchises to all and sundry for a massive cost was the most idiotic idea they had. The operators only goal is to maximise profits to pay back their franchise costs and please their board and shareholders and unlike bus routes or airlines there is no real alternative for the customer, meaning they have little power to get the operator to improve costs and service through normal market forces.
Great to read this informative article. I only wish somebody with influence and sway in parliament would do something about it.
The Brits are fucked on so many levels: energy prices, fuel prices, crap expensive broadband, crap expensive rail services, crap highways, and how do we try and solve it? Talk of building and expanding airports. Elected police commissioners. Tax breaks for the wealthy. What are they thinking??! Those cowboys in parliament are so out of touch with the real British public.
And you’re so right about how Whitehall just focusses on London.
Another great article by Chris, congrats. I was on the Waterloo to Reading service this morning, trains delayed because of slippery rails. Seriously? How do they run during rain then…
There wasn’t even any snow on the bloody tracks. Agree with everything in this article. Rail system needs a complete overhaul.
As a person who uses the trains a lot I have 2 views of the trains in the UK, I live outside Glasgow so use ScotRail when travelling in the local area my view of them is not very good the services are always running late the trains are not the best but better than some I have used and there prices are very high for what you get.
The other side to this is I go to London at least every month normally (it’s where my boyfriend lives) For this journey I always use Virgin I have had good experiences with them they are not the best and do have delays but have always been very helpful and nice when they do. They also have a wonderful twitter team who are super helpful. As for EastCoast I have decided not to use them any more I find there are normally running late have rubbish train (I do know they are getting new ones in 2016) and to be honest the service on-board the train is some of the worst I have ever had on a train.
On the prices issue trains are very expensive I have paid £120 standerd return to London before but this was picked up on the day as I did not know I was going. I am luck that being 21 I have a 16-25 rail card that does help with the price of the trains if I book in advance I normally get a first class return from Glasgow to London for £80
Over all I would love to see the British train network improved I love trains and I do prefer to travel by them it’s just so much more easy for me.
Cars average around 10mph in London, you have to pay the congestion charge and you need to have somewhere to park once you get there. You’d have to be bonkers. Alternatives are push bike, moped or train.
Trains are inefficient at dealing with massive swings in passenger numbers. Outside of rush hour most of the trains on my line are less than 50% full, during rush hour there are queues.
I completely agree, cars in London are no option, that’s why the train services can increase prices by 11% or so every year without improving on the reliability or the frequency of the trains – is there one commuter train in London that is not overcrowded at 8am in the morning? And why do I have to queue for 30 minutes at some ticket counters in major stations?
Shut the hell up and get over it…
You’re a bit of a cunt aren’t you?
Well that escalated quickly…
Did you mean to type that here?
I’ve travelled from Johannesburg to Cape Town (870m, £36) for less than it costs to get from Leicester to London (about 100m, £44). I’ve also travelled from Flagstaff, Arizona to New York (2,310m) RETURN for just short of the cost of a London to Edinburgh (404m) SINGLE.
The deliberately confusing pricing system has to change; train travel in the UK is a complete rip-off.
Could not agree more!
” It’s even more pronounced in Japan, where double-decker bullet trains run up and down 2700km of specially-built track that runs at 250kph”–
The track runs at 250kph? Do they charge extra from passengers who want to make the journey sitting inside the train instead of sitting on the high speed track?
It still comes down to the amount of subsidy. Whether it’s Moscow or Paris – all the examples of the best of public transport are also examples of MASSIVE amounts of public money being spent. The basic question really is: Do you want to pay via taxes or via ticket prices? Sadly, at the moment, the answer from the British public is ‘Neither – now where’s our free stuff?’
UK also has to deal with the ‘early adopter’ problem. Huge amounts of UK public transport infrastructure was created in the Victorian era, and struggles under the financial weight of maintaining old bridges, tunnels, buildings, etc. The London Underground is a case in point. London had the first underground, but now suffers compared to other cities that built later.
Of course – one of the big hassles about London driving right now is all the roadworks caused by….a massive new 118Km (£15bn) rail line.
Driving in London? Bwahahaha, oh please you make me laugh.
Most weekend’s I travel on a Friday from Plymouth to Manchester (7 years ago this was £70 for a return, now it’s about £140 with my Forces discount railcard) changing at Birmingham new street. I think I count on one hand the amount of time’s I have been able to grab a seat. A couple of months ago I was sat outside the toilet area on a x-country train as they were no seats available, a passenger went to use the loo and inside was a heavily pregnant woman using the toilet as a seat as she could find no where else to sit and could not afford to go first class!
Personally the years of lack of investment and political will in the 70′s 80′s and 90′s are the reason so much of national rail is in a bad state. On top of that the privatisation of British Rail was a monumental cock up.
Saying that. Living in London in the last 10 years I have seen improvement in the railways.
This is a great post.. please send to National Rail and TFL.
This is the reason i cycle everywhere in London in all weather, i have spent my “travel fund” on getting all the right gear for all weather and now do that. Also it helps with the beer gut. For travel out of London i have the car, its a Golf GTi, not known for its economic abilities however with family in Devon, Kent and Friends in Manchester, Essex and my trips to Wales for MTB rides travel round the uk adds up plus the yearly cost of tax, insurance (group14.. not cheap for a GTi) and service im looking at a large number.. would it be cheaper to take the train for all these trips.. fuck no.. wanted to see my brother in one of his army parades in Yorkshire, train ticket £239 pp booking 1 week in advance.. 4 people in the car, plus hotel cost me £75pp (hotel was rubbish but by the room so cheap).. if i added up all the train tickets for me and the mrs to do the same trips we do all year it is over double the cost of running my car.. imagine if i had a hybrid it would be 4-5 times the cost.. its stupid, people think im silly for having a car like that in London.. maybe, but its fun to drive and i use it a lot and its cheaper to get about and normally a lot quicker, London to Devon on train 3 hours or express for double money is 2 i can do it in 2.5 and not break the law. not had weather yet i cant ride in.. (being an MTB rider i have spiked wheels for snow and ice, i know thats just me, no one else would this stupid)
Just a terrible article. There are many explanations from a public policy and economics perspective but its easier just to moan I suppose.
Show no understanding of the economics of trains, development of modern economy, differences in compared to the Continent in subsidy levels, history of system, geography etc.
I suppose i shouldn’t complain on a free blog but i just wish journalists (if bloggers are) would take more time to learn rather than write polemics.
PLEASE READ ME GIZMODO
I am really disappointed in this article, while there are some genuine points, there are facts behind them that also need to be discussed to give a balanced view, rather than what sounds like someone moaning about their commute in that morning. (sorry, I don’t mean to offend)
I hope that you can take a few minutes to read the below, I have worked and continue to work for various major uk transportation infrastructure for many years. I hold no allegiance to any one party and would like to share the following.
DISPELLED FACT 1
that video is clearly taken during a period of train delays and so does not give a true representation of what its like on the tube. If you note the time board in the background, it notes the next train is 7min away and also clearly one has not been along for several minutes. Train frequency on the jubilee line which is shown in the video during rush hour is one train every 2-3min. Yes the tube does experience some extreme highs in passenger influx, especially stations like Waterloo, Clapham Junction, London bridge etc.
However to spend hundreds of billions of pounds to accommodate a 1hour period on the tube make no economical sense. Instead schemes like cross rail will help alleviate some of the problem by reducing the amount of interchanges that will need to take place and also add another line across London. Also the new London overground service is adding benefit. Will this ever solve the 1 hour madness. Not likely. Hence the bus and bike schemes etc.
What the Dft is trying to do though is connect more of London together with rail services like the DLR, and the East London line etc to link all regions of London together and promote regeneration. I don’t think there is ever a one transportation system fixes all, but I think that London has one of the most flexible and integrated transportation system of the world, even if it is not the most efficient.
DISPELLED FACT 2
Weather and track temperature.
Some may not realised but the rail on which you ride is almost a living and breathing thing as the sun comes up and goes down. What I am saying here is that as the steel tracks get hot they expand, about 1mm for every 1m per 10 degrees C. Now that may not seem a lot, but in a section of track that say is 1km long, the track will actually be 1m longer. To combat this the track is prestressed so that at 27 degrees it is actually stress free at this temperature, then as the temperature goes over this pressure build up that will want to buckle the track. as the temperature goes down its under tension. If these forces get to great a fast train passing over could cause the track to fail and the train derail, this is physics at work limiting what you can do with steel track and ballast.
Now I hear you say that other hotter countries manage ok, well yes this is true but many of these countries use jointed track where the rails can expand into, rather than continually welded track (CWR) that we do in the uk. As a benefit to us this make rides more comfortable (remember when your train your sound like be-bang..be-bang……be-bang….), it greatly reduces the cost of maintenance of the track and trains, it makes it better for local residents as the infrastructure is quite as millions of people live adjacent to the railway, and unfortunately provides with side affect during extreme times
Yes there are other technical solutions to the problem other then slowing trains down or in very rare cases halting services, but the costs of these are astronomical and the public are not willing to pay for it. Also there are many other factors that affect this like how many twist and turns or curves the track route takes. Because Uk routes where build to go from town to town, avoiding additional construction work where needed, we don’t have straight track that high speed can operate on. And not that towns, villages, and cities have formed around these route, the geography is locked in.
Other solutions are to use slab track rather that stone ballasted track, but per metre it costs 4-6times more to install, maglev track they use in japan is 10′s of times more. Just looking at the uproar of building high speed 2 just shows that the uk public don’t want to spend the money and I agree as the benefits don’t outweigh the costs.
DISPELLED FACT 3
Building uk infrastructure is incredibly difficult/expensive compared to most of the world. Uk is one of the most densely populated countries in the world (ignoring small principalities or small island countries like Maldives, Singapore etc), more so than Germany France and the rest of Europe. Only really japan can boast the same levels of difficulty, however they have the financial and political will to do the investments. They also benefitted from investment after having their country devastated in world war 2, where as the uk was broke, and so were able to put into place base infrastructure to allow easier implementation of future technologies.
You need to keep in mind that people in the uk want a 24/7 railway, this leaves no time for maintenance and upgrading, or makes it incredibly expensive when it is being done with huge financial penalties for overruning, and huge criticism if as much work as possible in not crammed into every minute when the a line is closed for upgrades.
Also because uk infrastructure is so heavily integrated between air, sea, rail and road, to upgrade the rail impacts on everything else which adds further costs. For example to say add another deck to trains like in Japan, say between London and Birmingham, is not as simple as adding another deck and off you go. The M1 or the M40 (depending on the route you take) motorway would need modification in places to raise bridges or build tunnels. Over bridges would need upgrading for the additional weights. Track would need upgrading. Signalling systems will be impacted on due to new driver positions, and also the change in profiles to trains could obstruct others. Power systems for the additional draw on current. It’s actually better and cheaper at this stage to just make trains longer, which is what is being invested in and constructed at the moment.
DISPELLED FACT 4
A lot of stations were closed in the 60s due to decreasing footfalls as the use of the car soared. These station were not necessarily closed to push people into cars but the other way round. But there were heavy cuts as the uk transportation policies favours air and road over rail, maybe in hindsight to the best choice but trains are not more efficient than cars are planes and so could see the argument against trains at the time.
DISPELLED FACT 5
an all powerfully regulator exists, the Dft. An additional layer of administration and governance would not make things better but worse. At the moment the gov have been stream lining Network Rail, tfl,/London underground/Train Operating Companies for the very reason you state. And while these transitional periods are hard, over the last 10 years things have greatly improved in terms of efficiencies, accountability and management of monies. Does this does not mean they are perfect though. Huge moneys are seemingly wasted, but often this is not the case, but rather over optimistic budgeting to sell schemes that were always going to costs more but were in the national interest to go ahead. Also it often costs huge amounts of money to find out the true cost of the scheme if every investigation was carried out adding 10′s of % to the cost of implementation. It is really a game of politics and national procurement for the cheapest price. But overall the true costs are coming down, fewer trains are late, more trains are running more often and for longer period of the day. But as you rightly point out there is still some way to go.
Also there are schemes being invested out side of London, huge ones, like the Manchester, Nottingham and Edinburgh trams. West coast electrification. However monies are spent that benefit the most people per pound so to speak. Unfortunately for rural area the car will always be king.
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not related to rail, but cars, many people in other counties prepare themselves during winter periods and do rely solely on the government. For example Norway, they have huge amounts of snow in the winter and cope fine. Why? Because in November they swap out their summer tires and fit winter ones. In the uk we expect a summer tire to work as well as it does in the winter but they do not. This is because summer tires are designed to operate at a certain temperatures, and in the winter they get to cold and become hard. This means that the rubber does not grip into the road/snow/ice and so you skid. Winter tyres operate at lower temperatures and can still deform to grip into the road/snow/ice.
You can’t rally have a one tyre fit all though because they would wear away to quick.
I hope you took the time to read this and if you did thank you very much
Syna
Good article, but you managed to miss the HUGE white elephant in the room, namely the franchise system that we’re currently lumbered with. Expensive and slow to administrate (only the other day the exorbitant cost of rerunning the West Coast franchise was revealed to be around £50million http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20634670), it does not even provide good service as the train companies have no competition on their routes to drive down prices, or improve quality. Even worse, the franchises produce guaranteed profits for the train companies – if their revenues fall short of those predicted at the outset of the franchise then the government makes up the difference! So they don’t even have an incentive to provide a good enough service to make a profit.
What we’re left with is the worst of all worlds: the inefficiencies and bureaucracy of a nationalised system combined with the greed and profiteering of a private system.
We need a government with the balls to either properly privatise the system:
Charge companies a fee to use the tracks (funding the infrastructure), then let them compete to provide services in a profitable manner – any profit from the track fees could fund unprofitable but necessary services.
Or properly nationalise it:
Recreate British Rail, use the economies of scale, advantages of a joined up service and the lack of profiteering to drive down costs to the rail traveller. Ensure any surpluses generated are reinvested in infrastructure and facilities.
Personally I favour the latter, but either would probably be better than the current rubbish.
Oh and seeing as the article blames Labour for the infrastructure problems, we should probably remember that it was the Tories who sold off British Rail to the current fat cat operators. (To be clear, I don’t support Labour, but if we’re gonna bring politics in to it we should identify all the culprits).
i quite like the new model