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My favourite movies in the world are those that involve time travel. I can’t help it, it’s my weakness. I also love any movie with Joseph Gordon Levitt. And Bruce Willis. And hell let’s just add Piper Perabo because she’s just as cute as her name sounds. But I didn’t watch Looper. Man I need to get out more. Okay, I’ll watch it right after I see everything that’s wrong with it, in this 3-minute video. [Cinema Sins]
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There’s going to be spoilers galore in this thread. I enjoyed this film, but it’s possibly the holiest plot in any film that I’ve ever seen – not because of Time Travel paradoxes, but because the script writer was lazy and not too bright.
Looper was good, a mouthful far fetched for a story line but it was pretty good.
Mostly true and funny but there in lies the problem with writing time travel stuff, even if you’re not a lazy stupid script writer you still can’t explain the paradoxes!
If you only count time as being 1 direction it’s easier, you can travel back in time and kill your younger self but you won’t just disappear because you’re already back in time and causality only flows in 1 direction, it doesn’t loop back in time with you.
The thing that annoyed me was the fact that they made it so that your body somehow knows when something has happened to it in the past so fingers suddenly dissapear etc, but they didn’t think that once the guy realises what an asshole his future self is, he’d change and not be a huge asshole in the future…
Really nice idea that was not so nicely executed.
Yeah, that’s fine, because that’s what a paradox is. I have a problem with the stuff that implies nobody actually thought the premise through. The three minute video there missed scores of the holes in the film. Does nobody question things like:
- in the future there will be time machines lying around in disused buildings.
- sending someone back to a time 40 odd years ago when there is assassin waiting with a gun is better than sending them back to a time when the Earth’s atmosphere wasn’t breathable, or sending them inside a volcano… ?
- He says they close the loop because the future self knows too much. So why did they let the guy live for 40 years knowing too much before killing him?
That’s not even stuff that’s wrong with the plot, that’s stuff that is wrong with the premise….
or shoot the guy then send the body back?
I actually thought this movie was pretty good. Most of the complaints in this video are rather just opinions than actual fuck-ups in the movie. The only real problems were with the time travel paradoxes but I guess this can only be solved with the multiverse theory.
Is it only me or is this movie sin thing quite annoying?
I had been really anticipating seeing Looper yet it turned out to be a massive disappointment. The first quarter or so, concentrating on the lifestyle of a Looper and painting a future civilisation and economy was fantastic. Stylistically, the first loop of Joe was very well shown and Old Joe was faced with an intriguing and incredibly difficult moral dilema while battling against the loss of his own identity. This portion was very well done in my opinion.
Of course, the writers had to go and bugger it all up by concentrating on a creepy child, turning the film into a family drama and dumping one of the laziest (and incoherent) endings on the viewers lap. Suffice to say, when I came out of the cinema I think I spent the next hour or two lambasting how badly the film turned out to be.
If you want intelligent time travel, Looper is not somewhere to look. Check out Primer.
If you want quirkiness and you just absolutely must have Bruce Willis in your time travel, watch Twelve Monkeys.
If you want action, Source Code does it better, has a superior plot and more likeable characters.
Even better, none of those films stumble by introducing freaky children.
I love it when you get a perfect time travel movie that that closes all the loops and ticks all the boxes, no, wait, i’ve never seen one of those, there’re always problems, get over it.
I really like Looper, a lot of the issues raised in the video can be explained away by the reviewers personal preference and understanding that in this movie time is relevant to young Joes timeline only and you dont have to worry about ping-ponging back and forth between old joe going awol so young joe kills himself so old joe never went awol so young joe doesn’t kill himself so old joe goes awol etc. etc. etc.
I would like to see a bit more of the world of looper, maybe a rainmaker film where he goes back to kill old joe just before young joe kills himself so he can save young joe and bring hm to the future and have JGL as his right hand man, minus all the prosthetics, but i doubt it’d happen unless SCYFY take it on and then i’d only want to burn it with napalm.
Looper was a good film.
It irritates me that there seems to be so much love for this film. Even ranked as one of the best films of the year on a lot of sites / in a lot of magazines. It is NOT that good!
The thing that annoyed me most wasn’t actually the time travel, I can forgive a lot of that, but the complete lack of understanding of how the physical world works.
When you shoot someone who is knelt down their body will NOT fly back 3/5 meters without giving any kickback on the gun and shooter! The force applied to the body will be equal to the force applied back on the gun and the shooter. As Newton’s 3rd law states and every school kid knows ‘For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction’.
They do this a lot in films, but this is by far the worst I have seen in a long time.
Didn’t think much of the film to be honest – it didn’t deserve all the praise it got, but its a worthwhile watch. Has nothing on Matrix as many reviews suggested.
I gave up half way through the film. Well, one of my friends turned it off before I broke the TV and to stop me shouting at the hundreds of plot-holes and bad time travel.
I mean WTF if you have time travel technology just send people back to the same point in time and deal with all of them at once, whats with the whole one at a time deal! Or just send them back to the jurassic period and let dinosaurs deal with them or even 4 billion years back before the earth existed. DUMBEST CRIMINALS EVER
Not to mention the poor writing and markedly average acting. As well as the fact that the future was half dystopia half utopia like mashing together I robot with Blade Runner.
Liked Looper a lot. I couldn’t wait for it to come out, I love Rian Johnson’s previous films (Brick, and The Brothers Bloom).
As for plotholes, I don’t analyse films to that degree. Which is why I liked – and didn’t get all the fuss about – Prometheus.
Also, the kid in Looper was an amazing actor for his age.