It’s been seven years since the giant, boxy, expensive, hugely-fun and hyped PS3 first arrived. Seven years is a long time. But the next expensive, gorgeous era of gaming is here: the PlayStation 4.
The PS4 is still very much a PC in terms of guts: an x86 processor, a combined CPU/GPU, (we’re not sure of exactly which one), and 8 GB of unified GDDR5 memory (versus the PS3′s 512 megabytes). And for those of you who worry about storage—don’t, as the PS4 will have a local HDD (no word if there will be any solid state action). What does that mean for your eyeballs?
A live demo of generic Unreal Engine 4 fiery destruction looked fantastic and fluid, at least on par with a high-end PC from today. A look at the next Killzone title was even more impressive, though we don’t want to get our hopes up too much about what’s pre-rendered here and what isn’t. If it is, lighting effects look absolutely phenomenal, with better flames, glare, and shadows than anything on any console.
But that’s the idea, right?
Cityscape scenes and view distance are pleasantly massive.
Overall—and this is based only on demos projected onto a screen, not a real game on a real TV in your real home—the graphics are fantastic, but not of an OH MY HELL, nothing-else-like-it-even-close leap. Like, say, the first time you ever saw Sonic Adventure. But we’re not disappointed—there are absolutely scenes we’ve seen so far that could’ve only been pre-rendered on a PS3 or Xbox 360.
A demo by Quantic Dream showing off realtime facial detail running straight off the PS4 was brilliant. And it was just a demo. Imagine this tech behind the team who made LA Noire. On the other hand, it’s just a single guy’s head floating in space, and a demo, at that.
A demo of Capcom’s PS4 “Panta Rhei” engine looked like a mix between pre-rendered PS3-splendid, and current-gen PC smooth.
Spectacular lighting and facial graphics, once again.
Some bad news: no native PS3 backwards compatibility. But! You’ll have PlayStation Cloud, permitting streaming access to old titles without the need for discs. Sony is frustratingly mum on how PlayStation Cloud will actually work, though.
The DualShock makes a return as well—the DualShock 4—sharing the same general design as its predecessors. But it’ll now share a touchpad in the middle, a share button, a headphone jack, and perhaps most importantly, a light bar that’ll track movement with a PlayStation Move-style controller.
That means movement gestures baked right into your hand—no need for a separate wand to wave around. Just one controller.
There’s also very impressive stuff going on in the background—games will be “instantly” bootable from sleep, and a secondary processor will handle downloading games in the background, giving you the ability to actually play games while they’re being transferred from Sony’s servers to your PS4.
A dedicated video-processing chip will let you stream video from your gaming session without leaving your session, sharable straight from a social-oriented button on your controller. Your friends will actually be able ot watch you play from their won couches, remotely offering tips and banter. Or hell: ask a friend who’s just better than you to take over your game from their controller and beat that horrible boss. UStream integration will mean your performance can be a public one if you’d like, too.
All the usual streaming video apps—Netflix, Hulu, Vudu, et al—will be there. Just like PS3.
The new social gaming interface looks decent, but Sony is pushing “social integration” pretty hard here, and it’s questionable how much anyone really wants a social network on their phones and tablets built around gaming. We already have too many. Luckily, Facebook will be integrated inside the PS4, connecting with the PlayStation Network to fill it out with the online life you’ve already been building, rather than tediously starting from scratch.
Personalisation is an interesting emphasis—Sony says it’ll study your downloading and playing habits to actually predict the next titles you’ll want and download them ahead of time. Unless that’s very smart, it’s going to be very annoying.
Remote play—continuing where you left off on another screen—will be another bullet point for the PS4. Expectedly, the Vita will be the go-to small-screen, with PS4 titles streaming straight to the Vita’s 5-inch display. Unfortunately, it looks like it’ll have to be wired, but Sony says the “goal” will be every single PS4 title playable on Vita.
So what does it look like we have here (or will have) in the PS4? The PS3… but… more. Where the PS3 was fast, this is faster, pretty becomes prettier, everything a little expanded. It’s a stiffer version of a drink you’ve had before.
Coming “holidays 2013″.
Of course, no word on how much this thing will cost, and to our disappointment and exasperation, we have no idea what the console will look like. Maybe it’s a pyramid. Bloody hell, Sony.































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Basically it’s already been outdated by my PC.
and even my laptop! i remember the days when consoles came out with bleeding edge tech, i had an xbox but had to wait for three weeks after to get my elsa gladiac 920 (the ge-force 3 on which the original xbox gpu was based) if i remember right. this will likely be based on a radeon 7 series chip but probably not the top end one
Catch up? It hasn’t even caught up, find me a gaming rig that has a mobo that only supports 8GB of ram, most support up-to 32GB of ram. Heck my laptop supports up-to 16GB of ram.
Basically I just got a list of reasons why I don’t have to worry about owning a PC for the next six or so years.
Actually, I do own one, one capable of playing almost anything currently, but screw PC, consoles are fun.
Specs wise outdated yes, but then what pc could run an Xbox 360 or ps3 game with 512 mb of RAM and an ancient gfx card?
Consoles are dedicated machines whereas a PC is multi-purpose, there is much more power available here than the raw specs suggest.
And also don’t forget, you can have 32Gb of clunky DDR3, whereas this packs stonkingly fast GDDR5
just what I was going to say. People always seem to forget the single minded optimisation of a console and that there are different types of ram.
“And also don’t forget, you can have 32Gb of clunky DDR3, whereas this packs stonkingly fast GDDR5″
GDDR5 (Graphics Double Data Rate, version 5) SDRAM is a type of high performance DRAM graphics card memory designed for computer applications requiring high bandwidth. Like its predecessor, GDDR4, GDDR5 is based on DDR3 SDRAM memory.
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Based on DDR3 yes, but much faster, so what’s your point??
Paint me confused.
I think it’s because it costs so much to make games that require more power than this, so there is little point in them making it any better. They were moaning about this problem when the ps3 came out, game development just costs too much.
so – ‘too much’
The dude that’s talking right now is well creepy…his eyes are intense, and not the good way
Also, Dave Perry (CEO of Gaikai) went to my school :O nice
What does the box look like?
That’s what I want to know!
I’m sad they didn’t even tease it.
I was a bit peeved about that but I’d rather see the controller and what the console will actually do.
Seems like they’ve set it up for a BIG reveal at E3.
Looks absolutely brilliant!
Nothing groundbreaking so far…….
So…alright specs and playing catch up on the social aspect XBL had 3 years ago? Come on Sony.
As if XBL was ever anything more than crying kiddies on mics.
Actually there are many more ‘mature’ gamers on the Xbox than the Ps3. When my daughter plays on the Ps3 I have to watch who she is talking to in ‘Home’ because It seems to be teeming with predatory paedophiles. Also when I occasionally play ‘Resistance’ all I hear is whiny American kids, as they seem to be the only ones that can pair a Bluetooth Mic (probably the reason why there are so many paedophiles on it)
I have both, and you get the same idiots on both, its not linked to just one system. There are just more on the PS3, but I put that down to being more people playing the PS3.
I couldn’t give a crap about the social stuff and cross game chat and all that gumph really. The ‘share’ feature seems quite fun though and something I might actually use.
I think I’ll stick to playing ios games on my iPad.
Killzone didn’t impress me, Crysis 3 on PC looks better and the gameplay of Killzone just looked like any other boring console shooter I’ve played. Don’t get why Half-Life 2 was the last true great FPS, now they’ve all got the same gameplay. Plus did anyone else think hanging off the aircraft looked too smooth?
I dunno, that enemy did clip through the rope after he was shot.
ps4 live here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwYwP82Ht7A
I missed most of it. So do all games have to be downloaded now? The disk being just an access key? And they will download games its possible (but unlikely) you will buy, crippling you if you have a download limit? And Sony expects a wide use of turning off the big screen, grabbing a cable, connecting it up to the PS4 and the Vita and continuing gameplay on a 5-inch screen? And re-pay for any PS3 titles you may want to play? Huh. Sounds…. Well, like a bad plan.
Anyone watch it who can clear this up a bit?
Doesn’t Remote play work over wifi? If they can do it with current gen then I don’t see why they would switch to wired for PS4.
I thought that was odd, I would imagine it’ll be available over wifi.
Wired remote play? Sorry?
This seems to be speculation from Gizmodo, I don’t recall them saying it’ll be wired in the presentation.
If they’re basing it off the guy demonstrating it, it’s more likely that the Vita was plugged in for power.
Got to remember that there would have been a ton of wireless devices in that hall, so it makes sense to rely on a wired connection rather than wireless when doing the demonstration. It wouldn’t have looked good if there was too much interference.
That’s what I got too.
“a secondary processor will handle downloading games in the background, giving you the ability to actually play games while they’re being transferred from Sony’s servers to your PS4.”
Hasn’t the XBOX 360 been doing this since 2005 (or whenever it came out?!) without a secondary processor? It makes it sound like games will download faster but the reality is that half of the worlds internet stinks
Hasn’t the PC been doing this since the internet has existed?
Not on Steam. That pauses downloads whilst running games.
I think they’re referring to the ability to download a small amount of a game and start playing as the rest is downloaded as you play. Maybe.
Been able to do that on PC too, it never worked well.
probably because it was on PC.
The Wii had a secondary CPU to handle some tasks, so sony have caught up with the Wii.
This event bores me, just seem through the bullshit. I never did back in the day with the Playstation 2 reveal, now however it’s like, welcome to the PC 5 years ago lol. Then you smudge on all this marketing bullshit where you know tech demos and the actual game are different or how most of these games will be third party.
Most of all though, this hardware is like a mid ranged PC of today……. it’s nothing new :\
I’d be more impressed with a new architecture that could deliver something more that what we have. Instead it’s just an AMD based console and tbh AMD have shit single core performance and their GPUs have just been shadowed by Nvidia since like 2008.
‘scuse me, my 7970 GHz edition eats a 680 for breakfast.
No it doesn’t AMD drivers suck.
While it’s true that AMD’s 6000 series drivers sucked, the 7950 and 7970 are equal if not better than Nvidia’s comparable cards.
AMD’s newest tier of cards are wayyy better value in terms of price and performance. One thing i will say though, Nvidia PhysX is lovely, though the use of it is quite sparse. There’s only a few games that really use it, BL 2 being one of the heaviest use of PhysX.
Want PhysX badly? Get Nvidia. If it isn’t that important to you, get AMD.
No Fanboy’s please.
And how about the GTX Titan?
Have you seen the price point?
It’s a bit unreal.
Am I going mad or did they completely miss out what the actual console looks like?
all you pc guys saying your pc rigs have already outdated the ps4..so what yes its pc parts but are optimized just for gaming so are not the same as the pc counterpart at all
not to mention all this money you spend wit little games to play lol BORE OFF
I respect the sentiment of the power specs being unrepresentative, but you do know the PC has a mountain more games available for it than any console right? Exclusive things that don’t work on consoles (like WOW, Guild Wars 2, football manager etc.), mods, indie titles, freeware, abandonware, emulators.
Just saying
Quite a few indie titles are available on the Xbox arcade marketplace, and actually, Football Manager was made on the Xbox until 2008
So not for 5 years… That’s quite a long time.
And yes there are lots of indie titles on Xbox live arcade, but its minuscule compared to the pc scene
As someone that owns a Ps3, a Vita, an Android phone, a good specced Pc and an Xbox 360 the Ps4 didn’t show me anything new. There was nothing shown that could be pushed into the Ps3, apart from new games that looked really good playing on a 4k projector (they probably won’t look much better than current Ps3 games when played at 1080p) There was also no mention of a Disc drive which means they will charge you for downloading/playing your old Ps3 games :/
Lastly I don’t think that enhanced graphics over the Ps3 will be enough to sway most people to update, especially if they omit the disc drive.
My thoughts exactly, it’s just more shiny but nothing that they showed last night couldn’t be done on the PS3.
I was also a bit miffed that they showed off the new controller with the light bar and the track pad but not one demonstration showed it being used for anything useful, the motion controls in the sixaxis were underutilised and I believe these new features will also be.
At least with the Wii U, Nintendo showed us that the new system and controller would deliver new gameplay opportunities and tbh I would rather have fun playing with different styles and experiences than playing with better graphics.
I think I’ll be staying with my PS3 and Wii U for now.
Product launch without the product… Interesting.
If you’ve ever done an important presentation, realised you’d forgotten something and just had to wing it. That’s what this feels like
i’m sorry but my playstation plus subscription means i have 60 odd games downloaded onto my hard drive, also all the digital content, and they are telling me i cant transfer that to the new machine?!? THIS is my worry about digital distribution. if you want me to buy crysis 3 on PSN on friday, at least let me play it at christmas on my shiny new ps4! i cant help feeling that the games industry is mad! i expect xbox to announce backward compatibility as a ‘suck it sony’ play
but then i wont hold my breath
Of course you can still play all your old PS3 games! Of COURSE you can fire up your copy of Crysis 3 on Xmass day.
You just have to do it with your old PS3.
What’s that? It broke? So did mine.
Sucks to have bought Sony.
Won’t make that mistake again.
i know that a lot of people, (parents) will trade in the ps3 to get the ps4 (come on little jonny you dont need two playstations!). which basicly renders every release in the next year.. 50% less finacially viable! GTA5 is coming in october?!? whats the point unless there is a ps4 version in the wings. once again it seems that the gaming public are getting screwed over again. we already have one of the most expencive hobbies on planet earth
Will this not be down to the CPU architecture? the games were coded for the old CPU and with the new one being so different it wont work?
I believe that “digitally downloaded” content, especially PSN bought stuff will transfer. Not physically, but in the respect that their new “streaming” PS3/2/1 games work on the PS4 and your digital purchase should entitle you to stream them.
They may even make an app for the PS3 that verfies discs and unlocks games on your account (I doubt it).
As for trading in the PS3? Who would want the worlds least reliable console ever? Especially second hand!
As for trading in the [s]PS3[/s] XBox360? Who would want the worlds least reliable console ever? Especially second hand!
Damn you, Gawker. Why you no do strikethrough?
Gizmodo UK isn’t Gawker…
That would explain my confusion.
What is it then? Can strikethrough be done?
Future Publishing, and
yes.I’m going to try various things until I get it right.
[strike]Now does this work, I wonder…[/strike]
Ooh weird, that just removed the Reply button from my post. That’s intriguing.
Or did it? All my posts are like that now. I guess I’ve reached the end of a maximum reply chain.
I still can’t work out strikethrough though. Tell me. TELL ME.
Will this work then?YAY.
Giz UK SucksFor anyone wanting to know the dark arts of strikethrough then use the html tag “del”, i.e. <del>strikethrough<del/>
Opps. Got excited and put the slash in the wrong place.
<del>strikethrough</del>
So what’s the deal with the lack of Reply button?
Additionally, I
likelove this.It’s Future publishing, not Gawker. and the site runs on WordPress just to confuse things even more
oh wait but you ARE going to buy it are you not…
50% Less financially viable? I object, your coming to the close of your PS3 lifespan and still have developers pumping out triple A titles as a last goodbye instead of just focusing on next Gen and letting the PS3 die, and you are complaining?
cherish it, enjoy it, remember it and why not wait a few extra months before you buy a PS4, Launch day titles usually suck.
Right, so when does the trading starts? I’ve got my PS3 all packed and ready for a smooth exchange
I take it you are excited about the PS4 but would/will you really be trading in your PS3 knowing that the PS4 isn’t backwards compatible?
Yes, because I would only be playing PS4 compatible PRE-Owned games, but if pre-owned ones are barred I won’t bother getting it and instead save up for Google Glass!
That’s fair enough. Personally I like to keep my old games as I go back to them now and again. PS4 not having backwards compatibility isn’t a complete deal breaker but it does put me off buying a PS4 until I’ve got all I can out of my PS3, which may be some time.
Very true, it’s not a deal breaker for us but I know many would opt out for either Xbox or back to PC for this solo reason, specially the ones with a huge collection of ps3 games!
When I bought my PS3 I kept my PS2 to play my old games. Within 2 months I gave away my PS2 and focused just on the PS3. Backwards compatibility isn’t a huge deal to everyone. Once the PS4 arrives my PS3 will find a new home at my work place.
I play Ingress and Shadow Gun Dead Zone Online Multiplayer agaisnt real people (FU dumb AI, strickly human only)at lunch breaks!
My old PS3 will be making the perilous journey from the ‘man room’ to the living room and taking up duties as a Blu-ray player and occasional games machine. bit like retiring a thoroughbred horse and using it as a stud.
Or or swap it for a PS4 for a very reasonable price I presume?
Well, if I keep it and move it to another tv I can still play my PS3 games easily and we also get a Blu-ray player in the living room. win win.
That’s a good point actually! I know there is a device that streams TV from room to another but I think the hassle not worth it.
Hmmmmm. I can run Windows, Linux and DOS 6.22 on my “PC”. Why? Because I can.
Since the PS4 is now just a “supercharged PC” using regular PC grade components making it easier to develop for, are going to allow me to use Other OS’s on it Sony?