Despite the rumours, the PS4 won’t block used games according to Sony’s Worldwide Studio boss, Shuhei Yoshida, at least. He said “used games can play on PS4″ after a direct question from Eurogamer. Phew. Your move Microsoft. [Eurogamer]
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Easy to say when it won’t run any old PS3 CD games anyway! They might just change their minds a couple of years down the line when there are used PS4 games around!
A bit like when they changed their minds about running Linux OS and just stopped it with updates
He said “used games can play on PS4″
But not before checking what the official party line was. I strongly suspect that PS4 has the technology to block used games, but use of it will be at publishers’ discretion, much as region locking was on PS3. Also, I reckon Microsoft will do exactly the same thing.
Being said that, the controller looks a bit like circumcised penis
I think you need to see a doctor.
I know right!
It’s intentional, made to satisfy the bellends (aka fanboi’s) that like the design.
I’m a ps3 user and seriously the dildo shaped ps4 controller might be a slight embarrassment
Wonder if they’ve stuck a strong vibration motor in it?
Multipurpose I suppose that could only be a good thing then
They did say they had “improved” the rumble feedback…
I take it you don’t own one of the playstation move wands? Or as my friends like to say ‘the glowing dildo controllers’.
No, actually it keep reminding me of Mask doing that pachuo dance!
So someone likes the particular design of something that differs with your personal taste so they are either a bellend or a fanboi ? riiiight.
Perhaps your just a sheep following these “masses” you guys keep talking about. But funny how with so much apparent dislike for a controller style still has you sheep going out to buy it. Who’s the bellend.
You are for taking the comments seriously and not seeing the connection to the post that compared them to a circumcised penis.
Bellend
I’m pretty sure they’d run into issues at least in the EU if they actually tried to block used games.
They’d also make me for one decide there’s no merits in copyright law, if I can’t do what I want with the things I own I might was well not pay for it in the first place.
They would dodge that issue entirely by leaving off the optical drive. However I do not believe they would ever actually consider leaving off the optical drive because the entire console then loses ‘mom and dad’ appeal that are so important in it being allowed a place in the living room. No optical drive = no blue ray…
PS4 FTW YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
I dunno about you guys, but I think that controller is goddamn hideous.
Typical Sony, effing clueless about how to make a good pad. The fanboi’s will love it, the masses will hate it.
No, THIS is hideous: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Xbox-Duke-Controller.jpg/1212px-Xbox-Duke-Controller.jpg
The one above is refined and rather nice, in my opinion.
What relevance does the original (and horrible) 1st gen xbox from 2001 have here? It’s 2013 now, this is sony’s 4th gen product.
I was merely using it as an example of a hideous controller. It was also hideous at launch.
Yep, but that was their 1st attempt, this is Sony’s 4th (or more if you count the several minor revisions over the years).
Down fanboi, down! We all have opinions that can’t be the same as each other.
I’m not really a fanboi
I’m just as eager to see what MS pull out of the bag, but I am excited by what Sony have revealed.
It does seem a little pointless to say something as abitrary as “horrible thing is horrible” with no real reason behind it. It looks pretty similar to the DS3, with a bit more refinement and a couple of new features. What’s not to like?
The DS3 was bloody awful for me so seeing this really puts me off the console. I’ll probably still buy it anyway though as i’m a gamer that’s not attached to a particular platform.
Have you looked at it properly? The handles are extended and have adopted their shape from the Move controllers, which (despite being next-to-useless) are really comfortable to hold. That’s especially important if you’re going to be waving this about whilst gripping it one-handed.
The triggers appear to be the proper shape now, and whilst the left thumbstick is still in the wrong place, at least it now appears to have a cap designed to keep your thumb on it, rather than engineered to force it to slip off.
Aesthetically, it’s just a warty lump of black plastic, and no different to any other standard joypad in that respect (colours notwithstanding). But it looks to be a genuine improvement over the disappointing DualShock 3 in every regard, even before the touchpad and extra motion sensors are taken into account.
Good, blocking used games would have killed off the Playstation franchise once and for all. The used market is a vital part of the video game (and retail) industry.
My Only issue with the controller is , Did it really need a Share button?
Surely something like a share function could be included into the Menu for the PS or Options button. It’s a function that I see being redundant for many players who aren’t interested in uploading screenshots or videos, so why call it a “share” button and limit its functionality.
I would prefer something that had a much wider meaning & use. for example a “Social” button, or a Menu button. It would make more sense for 99% of games to have a Menu and Options Button combo and put Social elements into the PS button.
Taking that answer at face value seems incredibly naive…
I think a better analysis comes from interpreting what he didn’t say rather than what he did.
He said that PS4 could play used games. He didn’t say that it will play used games or that there would even be a means by which one might transfer a game once it was bought. Saying it ‘can’ do something is a far cry from saying it will.
He also didn’t say, if it indeed will play used games, on what terms it will play them. It could very well be that the system will allow the transfer of game licenses but only for a fee.
I fully expect a system where Sony and their developer partners get a taste of the used game action. This has been coming for a long time. The only real question is how will they collect the fee. They could collect the fee directly through the PSN but that would require a lot of admin on their part. If they are smart they will offload that task and the associated headaches and bad PR by making the existing network of used game retailers deal with collecting a fee that will then be kicked up to Sony. Sony would then distribute the fee to their developer partners. This could easily be managed with a database of UICs which links each disk to a system serial number or PSN ID.
An easy system would work like this:
Little Johnny buys a new game. The game’s UIC has no association to a PSN account or console SN. Before little Johnny plays the game the first time it must be activated. The retailer can activate it with little Johnny’s PSN ID at POS, little Johnny can activate it over the internet via the web or it activates automatically if his console is connected to the internet.
On activation the game is tied to a console and a user. That game can then be played on the console by anyone, or on any other console as long as little Johnny is logged in. Anyone can play it at his house and he can take it anywhere and play it.
Then when lJ gets bored and trades it in, the partner retailer scans the discs UIC which charges the retailer a fee and unlocks the media.
When the disc is resold the entire process repeats.
In the off case a game is given as a gift, the recipient doesn’t have access to the internet and the gifter didn’t know the recipients PSN ID, the all partner retailers would offer activation of games for free as a condition of being licensed re-sellers.
Clean, doesn’t require the user to have access to the internet, fair to developers, fair to used game merchants and takes the burden completely off of the consumer.
Regardless this model won’t last long. I foresee prepay pricing models and premium play pricing models giving way to a ‘coin operated’ pay for time model as games are hosted universally from the cloud. It’s better for developers and since developer participation makes or breaks a console, the market will naturally move to a model that best pays developers.
That’s what I think anyway…